Y'all the persimmon pie turned out delicious. If I get the chance to do it again I will add a teaspoon more of each spice. I think it's fun to make up recipes. Tell us all some kind of thing you made up in your kitchen. I bet it turned out great. I made up some hot pockets one time for George's and me. They were so good that we started making them often. Buy the way Hoffman Media called and said - The Southern Mirror coffee table book will be mailed at the end of October. I'm going to wrap them